![]() Mark Leibovich: Basically, when This Town came out in 2013, a lot of people were saying, Oh, well, you’ll never eat lunch in D.C. Gal Beckerman: So how does it feel to become D.C.’s greatest contemporary sociologist? Do you still get invited to parties? This conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity. I talked with Leibovich about the people he calls the “collaborators” and whether he has a grand “banality of evil” theory to explain their behavior. What made them tick? That was a journalistic question with some mystery to it. Far more interesting were those who stood next to Trump and enabled his rise-the Lindsey Grahams and Kevin McCarthys-those who should have known better. “I never found Donald Trump to be remotely captivating as a stand-alone figure,” Leibovich, a staff writer for The Atlantic, writes in an excerpt. ![]() ![]() What distinguishes Mark Leibovich’s new book about the Trump years from all the many, many others is that he started it with an unusual premise: He was bored with Trump. ![]()
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